I would like to start the WOO protocol, but I don't have the Natren probiotics in powder form as indicated in LTYG, I only have the Healthy Trinity on hand.

If I don't have diarrhea, can I start the protocol with the Healthy Trinity?

I have just started applying the WOO topically as indicated in LTGY (I am so happy to have the 2006 version after only having the 2000 edition) and it actually seems to be very soothing.

Thanks,
Lindy

I just have to say that topical WOO is working great!!! I know I just started it today, but I have gone so long without relief of a sore bum and I am loving what is happening right now.

I am going to bring Jini's book to my Naturopath and introduce her to this program-
Lindy

I take two Healthy Trinity first thing in the morning with a bowl of cereal and then take the first dose of WOO two hours later.

Does this sound okay?

And, just to make sure, it is okay to rub the WOO on my rectal area? I hope so because it does seem so soothing and I am hoping for some healing.

Thanks,
Lindy

Jini's protocol says that WOO should be taken on an empty stomach. For 5x per day, I know that I don't have a 2 hours post food empty stomach each time I take it.

I eat lots of small meals/healthy snacks throughout the day instead of the typical 3x per day large meals.

What is a time frame to indicate empty stomach and what is acceptable?

If I have food in my stomach, would increasing the dosage of the WOO be a solution?

Thanks,
Lindy

I don't know where I got the 2 hours post food. I will follow the 45min/1hour time frame.

I had been taking the HT in the am because I often eat garlic with dinner and I wasn't getting the appropriate time lapse before I went to bed. I will adjust my schedule to get the HT at night now.

Thanks so much for all of your help!
Lindy

Why is the probiotic only supposed to be at night? For more colonization?

Thanks,
Lindy

Hi, Lindy.

Jini recommends the powdered probiotics during Phase One so that the probiotics can also be colonizing the mouth and esophagus.

For probiotics, you need to take them 20 minutes before food or 2 hours after food. They definitely need to be taken at least 2 hours away from garlic, onions and wild oregano oil (or any other type of antimicrobial).

The wild oregano oil isn't as sensitive. You CAN take it with food, although most people seem to get the best results taking it by itself, on an empty stomach.

No problem applying the wild oregano oil topically to the rectal area. I'm glad you're finding some relief that way!

When Jini was first developing her protocol, Phase One only contained wild oregano oil. With experimentation, however, she found that the results were better if there was a dose of probiotics added each day during Phase One. The consultation clients who tried her protocol early on confirmed this observation. If you wanted to add additional doses of probiotics during Phase One, you could, but intuitively, the best time to take the probiotics is on an empty stomach at bedtime. This way, the probiotics have several hours to do their work before the first dose of wild oregano oil the next day.

Take care,
Nicole

Nicole wrote:When Jini was first developing her protocol, Phase One only contained wild oregano oil. With experimentation, however, she found that the results were better if there was a dose of probiotics added each day during Phase One. The consultation clients who tried her protocol early on confirmed this observation. If you wanted to add additional doses of probiotics during Phase One, you could, but intuitively, the best time to take the probiotics is on an empty stomach at bedtime. This way, the probiotics have several hours to do their work before the first dose of wild oregano oil the next day.

Take care,
Nicole

Hi Nicole,

I think I messed up the protocol.

Anyway, I just started the probiotics last Friday. I'm taking all three morning and night.

Is it okay to start the Wild Oregano again x 3/4 times per day? I believe so after reading the above comments.

Half way through my first week with the probitics and have an awesome heat generating from my upper bowel and are constipated. What would be causing this?

Any remedies for Uveitis and Glaucoma?

I'm 3 weeks post a Trabeculectomy on my left eye and would like to know if there are any natural supplements I take that will help speed up my return of vision.

Cheers
Brett

Hi Nicole

I just thought I would post my question here.

I have the upper abdominal pain again and went and had a blood test today again to check the pancreas and everything else. I will get the results back next week I am also getting tested for the CEA which is a cancer marker but they think it is just gas but I always like to be thorough as I know bowel cancer can have these symptoms too which does scare me. Am I just panicking again ?????
I had a CT Abdominal Scan in late January and all organs and things came back fine, although it doesn't show up the large intestine so I was a bit disappointed in that as that is why I really wanted it done, the small intestine showed up and that looked fine. The doctor said only a colonoscopy can find out what is wrong in the bowel and I don't really want to have that done.

Therefore after having the CT scan and the pancreas coming back all good I am wondering if what I am experiencing again is just Gas & Bloating ??? it is very annoying as the ache I get is in between where the top of the ribs join and about 4-5cm down and it just looks and feels swollen.

My bowel movements were going along nicely for quite a few weeks going everyday and formed and then last week I didn't have to go for a couple of days and had a bit of constipation and now they are formed to start with and then soft diarrhea (not runny at all), no blood or mucous that I can see but in the soft diarrhea I do see some bits of undigested food, I think that is why they think it could be a problem with my pancreas because the food isn't being digested properly and they had mentioned digestive enzymes and I don't want to take them but as I said the CT scan came back with nothing wrong with the pancreas, I will find out what my lipase and amylase results come back like - is there anything you can suggest I can do or try in the meantime??

Or could it be that I was on the phase two of protocol for a couple of months and when I started with the constipation last week I thought that I would go back on phase 1 to get my system back on track again, taking 5 drops twice a day - so could it be a die off effect and thats why I have all this again ??? I also take 1 fish oil capsule every morning and aloe vera juice and when I remember I take 3 mucosaheal tablets at night after my last dose of probiotics.

When I feel like this I do go back and read about Jini's journey but it seems along way away when you feel like your travelling along nicely and then you get this again.

Thanks
Debbie

Hi, Debbie.

I feel your frustration - and I remember. Sometimes, it was - at least to an extent - an act of faith with me to continue. I'd go back and re-read stuff and still come to the same conclusion - yes, this is going to work for me. But it was a lot of back and forth for quite awhile. Looking back, it doesn't seem so long, but when you're living it, that back-and forth...symptoms are better, symptoms are worse...seemed to take forever before everything *really* leveled out and stayed that way.

To be honest, I'm not a great fan of digestive enzymes myself, although it's only fair to say that some people have been helped by them. I tried them (mainly to please my husband) and didn't think they made any difference at all.

However, I do very much like the idea of enzyme-rich foods being incorporated into the diet. Plant foods noted for a high-enzyme content include cold-pressed, extra-virgin olive oil, raw honey, figs, avocados, dates, banana, papaya, pineapple, kiwi and mangoes. A *great* source is cultured or fermented foods, like yoghurt made from raw milk or sauerkraut or fermented carrots (particularly tasty) or natto or miso, if eaten unheated. You can get lots of recipes in the book Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon. If you can't find it locally, you might check www.amazon.com for a used copy; if you can find a shipper who'll send Internationally, the postage is pretty reasonable...although, it's likely that your book will take awhile to arrive.

Other than that, it's kind of a case of "keep on keeping on".

Bone-based broth, plenty of rest, stress-management, actively exploring the roots of your dis-ease (Annabel Fisher has a great article on this in the upcoming Good Health is Real Wealth infoletter, http://www.jptwellnesscircle.com), watching your diet, etc. To me, it sounds like a good idea that you went back to Phase 1 of Jini's Wild Oregano Protocol. Just keep working at it until you're able to follow it all the way through Phase 3 and then cut back to a maintenance dose of probiotics...you'll get there.

Take care,
Nicole

Hi Nicole

Thanks for your email.

It all makes sense with what you have said and your right it is very frustrating as you go along really well and then you feel like your going backwards and I do admit I do panic a bit and I am now looking for a good EFT practitioner to help me through the not so good times. I had my regular massage yesterday and I feel heaps better today.

Well I did get my blood test back and everything is great including the pancreas of lipase and amylase so they said their pretty sure that it isn't my pancreas that plays up so I am very happy with that so I still don't know what causes the ache in the upper ab but I'm thinking because I had some soft diarrhea that I have just had bad stuff in my system and it was getting rid of it as the ache has eased alot.

I will go back on phase 1 for about a week and see how I go and then continue back on phase 2. I did get to phase 3 a while ago and thought I was going along really well but then some symptoms returned so I went back and started phase 1 again for a few days and got to phase 2 again this time so I'm sure I will eventually get there like you said, it just gets frustrating and thats why I'm hoping EFT will work.

I will see how I go and if I have any other problems no doubt I will contact you again.

Cheers
Debbie

Hi, Debbie.

Sounds good - and keep in touch.

Take care,
Nicole