We have been syringing Steven's perianal abscess for 10 days now with WOO and it is going well. Do we put comfrey salve inside the abscess or just around the outside of it? We have Comfrey suppositories as well. We think the time is nearly right for the comfrey.
The abscess has healed a lot from within, and there is not much space for WOO any more (or comfreysalve!). He is continuing the internal WOO 3 times a day, and the probiotics once a day.
Best wishes,
Penny and Steven

Hi, Penny.

Excellent! Thank you for sharing your progress.

The instructions for the syringing protocol state to apply the wild oregano oil:

- 2 times per day for 10 days (yes, this is AFTER there is no infection left).

- then allow hole to close and continue applying topically for a month, 3x/day.

So I would wait until after you've followed the step of 2 times per day for 10 days (after there's no remaining infection) and then apply the comfrey topically. I'll ask Jini for her comments here, as well; she may have more details.

All the best,
Nicole

Hi Penny,

If the hole is nearly closed (excellent news) then just continue to apply the wild oregano with your finger to whatever area is accessible for 10 days, or until area is completely healed.

As wild oregano is also an anti-inflammatory and wound healer, you may not need the comfrey.

Could you please post your entire story here - from fistuala diagnosis, appearance, symptoms etc. through to treatment and resolution?

This would be REALLY helpful to others as there is currently very little information from people who have used this protocol.

Perhaps we could even publish your account in the Good Health Is Real Wealth infoletter and on my blog. As I said, this is an area where people really need some guidance and encouragement.

Well, let us know how it goes....

take care,
Jini

Thanks Jini. We are happy to post the whole story when the resolution is complete.
The abscess is nearly closed over now, and Steven has begun using Comfrey suppositories.
He has stopped the internal WOO because his constipation was pretty bad, and we wanted to increase the amount of probiotics again. He continues the topical WOO of course.
We are wondering how often to use another suppository when he doesn't open his bowells for at least 20 hours? Is it helpful to put another one in or is it still effective for that long?
Thanks so much for this great support!
Cheers,
Penny and Steven.

Another question we are uncertain about please.
Steven has a fistula that has been a bit infected and he has been doing topical WOO for some weeks. It is quite close to the anus, and we imagine it connects to the rectum. But LTYG says it may have closed off the connection to the bowel. We are wondering if it would be useful to syringe the bowel with diluted WOO, without being sure if it is connected or not? It doesn't seem likely the doctor could really tell if it is connected without doing a full colonoscopy.
Many thanks and best wishes,
Penny and Steven.

Hi Penny,

Yes, I would do another suppository in the 20 hour period.

However, try taking 125 mg. magnesium citrate and 100 mg potassium citrate together after a good-sized breakfast or lunch and see if that doesn't move the bowels.

If not, increase magnesium by 125 mg at at time until establishing the needed dosage - up to a max of 1000 mg per day.

Next, for the fistuala close to the anus - ideal would be to syringe the WOO directly up into it. But if this cannot be done, then yes, apply topically (try to use a q-tip to swab inside as far/much as you can) and try syringing up the rectum and see what happens - does any of the WOO come out the fistula when you do this? That might give you some idea of what's going on.

take care,
Jini

One more thing, just received this from another reader and thought you might like to give this a try.

I think the key here is the length of time in the bath. Also, I would add 2-3 cups of epsom salts rather than the usual 1 cup advised.

I also had to deal with a rectal abcess. The first occurence had me at the doctor where he cut a hole into the abcess to let it drain. It apparently didn't completely drain as it would reoccur about every five years. It grew to the point where it would open up the hole and drain some, but never completely. I had one episode that was very severe. The abcess grew so large that I had trouble sitting. I finally took a bath using epsom salts and soaked for nearly three hours (maybe longer than necessary). The abcess opened up and completely drained that time. It has not come back in 20 years.

Let us know how it goes....

Jini

Thankyou Jini for the tip about epsom salts. Steven tried a long bath recently but I suspect it is less useful because the abscess is not open at present.
The abscess is flaring up again after closing now and we had to stop using the comfrey because the other fistula flared also. So he has been using WOO topically as often as possible (aiming for 5 times a day) but not internally at present because of the constipation problem when he reduces the probiotics. So we are really keen to work out how to solve that one. You suggested magnesium and sodium citrate but I haven't worked out where to get that yet. I asked the pharmacy and the health food store but they don't know of it. Any tips?
Gratefully,
Penny and Steven

I meant to say mag and potassium citrate.
Cheers
Penny

Hi, Penny.

I'm not sure whether to suggest that you mail-order the products or just try what you are able to get locally. Knowing Jini, I'm sure she had a reason for recommending a specific form of the minerals, so I've asked her to answer your question.

All the best,
Nicole

Hi Penny,

I'm very surprised you're not able to get them locally....

Perhaps you're asking for them in combination? They are sold as separate supplements and Magnesium Citrate is one of the most common forms of magnesium. So.... if you still can't get them, then order online - try somewhere like vitacost.com where you'll likely get free shipping.

You want:
Magnesium Citrate (in 125 mg or 250 mg capsules or tablets)
Potassium Citrate (in 100 mg or 125, 150 mg capsules or tablets)

You can use magnesium oxide instead, but it is more irritating to the intestines - can cause some spasming.

take care,
Jini

Thankyou Jini,
I can find one place locally that has magnesium citrate but not potassium. Would that be useful?
I tried vitacost.com, but it seems they don't deliver to Australia.
I'll keep searching, but wonder if the magnesium is useful in the meantime?
Thankyou,
Penny

Hi Nicole,
This is sort of a new topic. Steven's abscess has flared up again (after healing right up by syringing with WOO) and we are frustrated because it is clearly still connected to the bowel by a fistula. We have held off using the comfrey suppositories waiting for the infection to be all gone, but it never will be while it is still connected to the bowel.
So my thought for today is to use the suppositories to close off the fistulae hopefully, and allow any further infection to surface through the two abscesses. Which is what it keeps doing anyway.
What do you think of this plan? I guess any time would be a good time to start the suppositories if going on this thinking?
Cheers,
Penny and Steven

Hi folks,
We sent 2 posts on March 25 and 26 and haven't had any reply yet. We would love to hear your answers.
Best wishes,
Penny and Steven

Hi, Penny.

I apologize that you've been waiting. I'll ask Jini to reply to your question.

All the best,
Nicole