[quote="Debbie"]Hello Nicole

Sorry but I have another question - have you heard of the infection for stomach and duodenal ulcers "Helicobater Pylori" bacterium ?? as this is what my doctor has tested me for with my stool sample which I still haven't got the results for yet.

Apparently from what I have been reading on the web is that the only way to kill this infection is with antibiotics plus antacid tablets.

I have been taken the probiotics powder for just under a week now (1/4 tsp each morning and night - taking slow approach) and I have found that this has helped but still get a slight ache under the ribcage thats why my doctor thinks it could be an ulcer and I wanted to know if I do have to take antibiotics do I still take probiotics and if so when is the best time to take them.

Cheers
Debbie[/quote]

Hi Debbi,
When you take antibiotics it is very important that you take probiotics.The antibiotics will lower the good as well as the pathogenic bad bacteria.In order to help stop an overgrowth of an opportunistic pathogenic bacteria, supplementing with a probiotic at least 2 hours after you take your dosage or 3 hours before will be helpful.
I read that you are bleeding and have headaches.Have you checked your blood count? When you become anemic you may get headaches.
regards
Morris

Hi, Debbie.

Good advice from Morris. I agree with him.

It's equally important to continue supplementing with probiotics AFTER taking antibiotics (whether pharmaceutical or natural) to help set up a gut environment which will be inhospitable to any possible future infestations of infectious agents.

Nicole

Hello Nicole

I had a sigmoidoscopy yesterday for the lower part of bowel which they found 20cm of inflammation above the rectum, I also had an endoscopy for my pain in the stomach and upper adominal region which he quickly told me yesterday showed up nothing.

When I saw him this Monday he told me he believed that it is just stress. He told me he would do the scope just to put my mind at ease but I'm not sure he even did it as I didn't have a sore throat or anything!! I go back to him next Thursday for the actual results.

I am feeling fine but still just with the pain in the chest.

Anyhow I am going to do Jini's Probiotic Retention Enema tonight and I have been taking them orally for over a month now as well which was working for the bowel and was wondering is there anything else I could do.

Cheers
Debbie

Well said Possum!

Jini

Hi, Debbie.

Yes, there are many things you can do to help heal inflammation.

Jini lists several supplements from pages 98-117 of LTYG, specifically about calming/healing inflammation and dealing with intestinal bleeding.

Are you still having any colonic or rectal bleeding or has that stopped? That has a definite bearing on where to start.

Ultimately, however, something that must be done to heal inflammation is to eradicate any ongoing infection in the gut and then repopulate with good bacteria. You can either use a natural antimicrobial, such as Wild Oregano Oil or take high doses of probiotics to address any infection. The Wild Oregano Oil is faster. That needs to be done to address inflammation at the source.

However, you can also take George's 'Always Active' aloe vera juice, 1/4 c. before bed on an empty stomach, MucosaHeal, Omega-3 fatty acids (like flax seed oil or cod liver oil - Nordic Naturals is a good brand which tests regularly for contaminants) and/or CoEnzyme Q10. But again, if there is an infectious component to IBD, and Jini has expressed a growing conviction that all IBD does have an infectious component, it is necessary to address infection. You can simultaneously take other supplements to help soothe and heal inflammation, but you won't have long-term success without addressing the cause.

For the same reason, at the same time, remember to look at the whole package. You need to watch your diet, obviously. Eliminate as many toxins as you can from your environment. (See Chapter 4 of LTYG.) But it's also extremely important that we all look at emotional and lifestyle factors that may contribute to illness. You'll find lots of discussion threads on the main forum about using EFT...also check out the articles on the "Interesting Articles/Research" forum. It's not a matter of blaming youreslf when you explore this arena (in fact, if a person feels that way, that in itself is a place they can address!), but simply of getting down to all the roots of your dis-ease.

As far as the pain in your chest, obviously, I'm not a doctor. What I can say, based on my own experience over the years with different physical symptoms/issues is that you need to go with your own gut feeling. If you really think/feel that something is wrong, deep-down, keep researching and looking for the answer.

Shortly after my older son was born (and I took multiple courses of antibiotics during the pregnancy because of recurrent bladder infections), I developed eczema. I was given a steroid cream for it, which seemed to work well, and figured that was the end of it. It was only years later that I learned that skin problems indicate gut problems (no surprise after all those antibiotics!). Who knows, if that early on I had known this and supplemented with high-potency probiotics, maybe I never would have gotten Crohn's. Not that I think this is the only reason I became susceptible, I'm just trying to make the point that it's worth catching things when they're small.

Another thing to try for the chest pain is EFT. This may actually help you to determine whether the pain has an emotional/stress-related cause or whether the cause is organic. According to EFT's founder, Gary Craig, if there is a purely organic cause to pain/symptoms, EFT will typically either give no relief or give only temporary relief. So that's something to keep in mind as a possibility.

But again, if you have an intuitive hunch - either that something is wrong or that it's "nothing" and will resolve itself, that's your best bet for deciding on how to act on the symptom.

One other thought: Check out "Dialoguing with your body" in LTYG. This works just as well with other parts of the body as it does with the gut.

Good to hear from you.

Nicole

Hello Nicole

Thank you very much for your reply.

I have no bleeding at all just soft stool with a bit of diarrhoea at the end, I done the probiotic retention enema on Friday and was able to keep it in for 3 hrs which was good. Do you know how far this enema reaches in the bowel ??

I have been on probiotics for a month or so but was only taking it morning and night (1 tsp of each powder) so now I am taking a higher dose of 1 tsp of each powder 3 times a day (is this high enough), plus Mucosaheal (strong support), 2 fish oil tablets per day and 1 tsp of L-Glutamine/day.

I am feeling a bit better since Friday so hopefully everything I am doing is working and no doubt it is a slow process.

Cheers
Debbie

Hi, Debbie.

As long as you followed Jini's instructions in LTYG (Chapter 2 in the Probiotics section), the probiotics should reach throughout the entire colon.

Three hours is very good, especially if you haven't done a retention enema before. It's a good idea to do it once per month until symptoms resolve.

You're right that it is usually a fairly slow process to heal. There are many areas to look at and the exact combination of causative roots is probably a bit different to each of us, so healing really does mean doing a lot of work to connect with yourself and put together a plan to address your exact needs.

Patience can be hard and if you're like me, you'll have moments on the journey when you think you're just never going to progress to the next stage you're trying to reach. But again, if you're like me, eventually you do see outward manifestations if you hang in there. When you get frustrated, keep going back inside to touch base with your own intuition: "Is this still what I should be doing? Do I need to change anything?" That type of thing.

I am glad to hear that you are feeling a bit better.

Sincerely,
Nicole